Comments on: An Atheist in the Catholic Church http://thethings.info/2009/11/an-atheist-in-the-catholic-church/ A blog about stuff. Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:37:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: CrazieShamrock http://thethings.info/2009/11/an-atheist-in-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-23 CrazieShamrock Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:55:09 +0000 http://thethings.info/?p=158#comment-23 The reason I've heard that we don't have any atheist Charities is simple because we don't call the atheist. I think that is the problem. Maybe we should organize more and get more on the radar? Maybe start a few major and supported charities with the words Atheist or Secular in them? Heck, we should write a bible too. :) The reason I've heard that we don't have any atheist Charities is simple because we don't call the atheist. I think that is the problem. Maybe we should organize more and get more on the radar? Maybe start a few major and supported charities with the words Atheist or Secular in them?

Heck, we should write a bible too. :)

]]> By: J. Allen http://thethings.info/2009/11/an-atheist-in-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-21 J. Allen Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:08:08 +0000 http://thethings.info/?p=158#comment-21 I'd like to think, should reason ever win, that churches will be replaced with secular community centers where people can go and discuss philosophy and give parables of humanism and science. Given that there is little precedence for nonbelievers to do so, and the fact that nonbelievers don't have a unifying creed, it is probably hard to start such a place. I've heard of attempts but herding atheists is like herding cats, and many atheists are disaffected by churches and thus shun any organization that reminds them of it. But I would agree that community is the strongest argument for religion, though I also believe that dedicated secularists will feel comfortable having more public meetings and organizations that can replace the loss of a church, though it may be an extension of education. That said, the church community can also be a negative influence. Many stories of told of being openly welcomed, and then harshly judged when one does not follow the 'norms'. I'd like to think, should reason ever win, that churches will be replaced with secular community centers where people can go and discuss philosophy and give parables of humanism and science. Given that there is little precedence for nonbelievers to do so, and the fact that nonbelievers don't have a unifying creed, it is probably hard to start such a place. I've heard of attempts but herding atheists is like herding cats, and many atheists are disaffected by churches and thus shun any organization that reminds them of it. But I would agree that community is the strongest argument for religion, though I also believe that dedicated secularists will feel comfortable having more public meetings and organizations that can replace the loss of a church, though it may be an extension of education.

That said, the church community can also be a negative influence. Many stories of told of being openly welcomed, and then harshly judged when one does not follow the 'norms'.

]]> By: CrazieShamrock http://thethings.info/2009/11/an-atheist-in-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-10 CrazieShamrock Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:41:31 +0000 http://thethings.info/?p=158#comment-10 Thanks for the comment. While I do agree that many religious people and churches have a very... Checkered history (Being Nice). I think that you could say that about any organization/institution. The only real problem I have religions is its use as a control. You could argue that those controls are what created the advanced society that we currently live in. I don't see religion as this random thing that gets in the way. Remember that we are the only animals that evolved into having abstract thinking, including religions. Because of this, you could argue that religion is the reason we are so intelligent, of course that is a type of chicken and the egg kind of question. Maybe we have evolved to a point where we don't need them anymore, but I know there are many who would disagree with us, and that proves by itself that we have not. Thanks again for your comment. Thanks for the comment. While I do agree that many religious people and churches have a very… Checkered history (Being Nice). I think that you could say that about any organization/institution. The only real problem I have religions is its use as a control. You could argue that those controls are what created the advanced society that we currently live in. I don't see religion as this random thing that gets in the way. Remember that we are the only animals that evolved into having abstract thinking, including religions. Because of this, you could argue that religion is the reason we are so intelligent, of course that is a type of chicken and the egg kind of question. Maybe we have evolved to a point where we don't need them anymore, but I know there are many who would disagree with us, and that proves by itself that we have not. Thanks again for your comment.

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